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		By: tylerolmstead		</title>
		<link>https://jp43training.com/basing-your-pace-on-conditions/#comment-2039</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2016 00:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jp43training.com/basing-your-pace-on-conditions/#comment-1942&quot;&gt;Patrick O&#039;Connor&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Patrick,

Every racetrack surface reacts differently to cool temperatures, so it depends on your specific situation. Often times in very cold temps when using warmers on race tires, the tires can actually lose temperature while you&#039;re out on track, especially if you&#039;re not working them hard enough to generate heat. It&#039;s a different story for running without warmers - in this case the tire is starting cold, and we must work to warm the tire up while on track to create grip. In both cases, we can generate heat in our tires with very hard, straight up-and-down acceleration and braking.

The short answer is: ride to the level of grip available. Learning how to feel for grip is an important skill to have as a rider. Work on being smooth and consistent, avoid overly-aggressive steering inputs, and be respectful of your lean angle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jp43training.com/basing-your-pace-on-conditions/#comment-1942">Patrick O&#8217;Connor</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Patrick,</p>
<p>Every racetrack surface reacts differently to cool temperatures, so it depends on your specific situation. Often times in very cold temps when using warmers on race tires, the tires can actually lose temperature while you&#8217;re out on track, especially if you&#8217;re not working them hard enough to generate heat. It&#8217;s a different story for running without warmers &#8211; in this case the tire is starting cold, and we must work to warm the tire up while on track to create grip. In both cases, we can generate heat in our tires with very hard, straight up-and-down acceleration and braking.</p>
<p>The short answer is: ride to the level of grip available. Learning how to feel for grip is an important skill to have as a rider. Work on being smooth and consistent, avoid overly-aggressive steering inputs, and be respectful of your lean angle.</p>
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		By: Patrick O'Connor		</title>
		<link>https://jp43training.com/basing-your-pace-on-conditions/#comment-1942</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2016 13:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m an avid track rider, we are going to the track this Saturday, temps will be in low 60&#039;s. I run race DOT&#039;s with warmers, do you think I can still ride at my fast pace with temps in low 60&#039;s. I would wait til afternoon to make sure track surface is at good temp.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an avid track rider, we are going to the track this Saturday, temps will be in low 60&#8217;s. I run race DOT&#8217;s with warmers, do you think I can still ride at my fast pace with temps in low 60&#8217;s. I would wait til afternoon to make sure track surface is at good temp.</p>
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		By: Tyler Olmstead		</title>
		<link>https://jp43training.com/basing-your-pace-on-conditions/#comment-1032</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2016 03:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jp43training.com/basing-your-pace-on-conditions/#comment-828&quot;&gt;Bob Miller&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Bob,

We don&#039;t use warmers on the Q3s at the school, just a few laps of smooth riding with strong acceleration and braking without much lean angle, which flexes the tire carcass, creating friction and building heat. Warmers are typically not needed on street tires because the operating temperature is usually lower than that of DOT or slick race tires. For example, with Q3s the operating temperature is around 130-150F, vs. 170F+ for race tires. For race tires, I would recommend using warmers, because as JP mentioned, the operating range is more narrow, and they require much more heat to work well (and therefore a faster rider to load them enough to keep them in that range).

For more information on using warmers with Dunlop tires, RTS has some useful information:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://dunlopracing.com/technical-info/#TP&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Race Tire Service&lt;/a&gt;

-- Tyler]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jp43training.com/basing-your-pace-on-conditions/#comment-828">Bob Miller</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Bob,</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t use warmers on the Q3s at the school, just a few laps of smooth riding with strong acceleration and braking without much lean angle, which flexes the tire carcass, creating friction and building heat. Warmers are typically not needed on street tires because the operating temperature is usually lower than that of DOT or slick race tires. For example, with Q3s the operating temperature is around 130-150F, vs. 170F+ for race tires. For race tires, I would recommend using warmers, because as JP mentioned, the operating range is more narrow, and they require much more heat to work well (and therefore a faster rider to load them enough to keep them in that range).</p>
<p>For more information on using warmers with Dunlop tires, RTS has some useful information:<br />
<a href="http://dunlopracing.com/technical-info/#TP" rel="nofollow">Race Tire Service</a></p>
<p>&#8212; Tyler</p>
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		By: Advice for Cold Track Day - Kawasaki Ninja 300 Forum		</title>
		<link>https://jp43training.com/basing-your-pace-on-conditions/#comment-915</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] unsettle the bike and crash.    Here is a great article by Jason Pridmore about cold weather riding https://jp43training.com/basing-you...95bf72be466f8c            dino74 is online now &#160;     Quote Quick [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] unsettle the bike and crash.    Here is a great article by Jason Pridmore about cold weather riding <a href="https://jp43training.com/basing-you" rel="ugc">https://jp43training.com/basing-you</a>&#8230;95bf72be466f8c            dino74 is online now &nbsp;     Quote Quick [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Bob Miller		</title>
		<link>https://jp43training.com/basing-your-pace-on-conditions/#comment-828</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 04:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jason,  Do you use warmers with the Q3s?  And if you do what temperature setting do you use.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,  Do you use warmers with the Q3s?  And if you do what temperature setting do you use.</p>
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		By: jason pridmore		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 01:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jp43training.com/basing-your-pace-on-conditions/#comment-781&quot;&gt;Eric O&#039;Day&lt;/a&gt;.

Eric,

Thank you for the response. I totally agree with you on how far tires have come. It doesn&#039;t shock me as much now because I have been on the Q2&#039;s and Q3&#039;s for some time now. What is really fun is seeing the kids I train, ride on the Q3&#039;s and love them. 

JP]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jp43training.com/basing-your-pace-on-conditions/#comment-781">Eric O&#8217;Day</a>.</p>
<p>Eric,</p>
<p>Thank you for the response. I totally agree with you on how far tires have come. It doesn&#8217;t shock me as much now because I have been on the Q2&#8217;s and Q3&#8217;s for some time now. What is really fun is seeing the kids I train, ride on the Q3&#8217;s and love them. </p>
<p>JP</p>
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		By: Ralph Berry		</title>
		<link>https://jp43training.com/basing-your-pace-on-conditions/#comment-809</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 21:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great read Jay!  As one of the slower riders I am always concerned about cold days and &quot;cold tire accidents.&quot; Especially if I can&#039;t get my generator to work and my tires start off cold.  I always try to warm up and build through each session.  Thanks for all your help on and off the track.

RB]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great read Jay!  As one of the slower riders I am always concerned about cold days and &#8220;cold tire accidents.&#8221; Especially if I can&#8217;t get my generator to work and my tires start off cold.  I always try to warm up and build through each session.  Thanks for all your help on and off the track.</p>
<p>RB</p>
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		By: Eric O'Day		</title>
		<link>https://jp43training.com/basing-your-pace-on-conditions/#comment-781</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2015 00:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great read Jason , thanks . Great info too. A few years ago i bought a set of what a were supposed to be RS-3 medium compound and when i got to the track i was found they were RS-3 Streets :o I was mortified and stuck with them . I was blown away when they were more than up to the job. Edge to edge at a upper club race pace without any issue. Modern rubber has come a long way to be sure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great read Jason , thanks . Great info too. A few years ago i bought a set of what a were supposed to be RS-3 medium compound and when i got to the track i was found they were RS-3 Streets 😮 I was mortified and stuck with them . I was blown away when they were more than up to the job. Edge to edge at a upper club race pace without any issue. Modern rubber has come a long way to be sure.</p>
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